[Jason Bizby]

I noticed that the rules for Liar's Dice at Novitas is a little flimsy and nobody has a great understanding of how they work as we all just end up bidding X number of sixes eventually. Here is how Red Dead Redemption does it and it works a lot better.

The game begins with all players betting an agreed wager.

Everyone starts with five dice, rolls them inside their cup and hides the dice by placing their cup face down over them. The skull faces can either be 1 or wild depending on the table's preference.

Bidding begins with one player declaring there are a certain amount of a specific value of dice on the table shared between all players. For example a player may say there are "Two 2s".

The next player has one of three options:
Option 1: Raise the bid. Raising the bid may be done in one of two ways:
-A player may bid an equal amount of dice or greater amount of dice of any face value equal to or higher than the previous bid.
For example if the previous bid was "Two 2s" the next player may bid "Two 3s", "Two 6s", or "Four 4s"
-A player may bid a higher amount of dice of a lower face value.
If the previous bid was "Two 2s" the next player may bid "Three 1s" or "Four 1s"
Option 2: Call a bluff.
-If the player thinks that the previous bidder claimed that there are more dice of that particular value on the table than there actually are the player may call the previous bidder a liar and all players reveal their dice.
-If there are fewer dice of that value on the table than what the liar claimed the liar discards one of his dice.
-If there are an equal amount or more dice of that value on the table then the person who called the bluff discards a die.
Option 3: Call "spot on"
-If the player thinks that the previous bid is exactly correct he may call "spot on" and all players reveal their dice.
-If the amount of dice of that value on the table equal the bid precisely then all players except the person calling "spot on" discard a die.
-If the amount is not exact, whether the actual amount is more or fewer dice then the person calling "spot on" discards a die.

Once someone has discarded a die the dice are then rolled again. If the person who called "liar" or "spot on" was correct they begin the next round's bidding. If they were not correct, the person they called the bluff against begins the bid.

The game continues in this fashion until only one player has dice remaining. That player wins the stakes and the game is over.

[Dano-Stonehand]

This seems almost exactly what we were doing. the "spot on" call is new though.

[Jason Bizby]

The other thing I noticed is that many people don't realize that they can call a higher amount of a lower face value so all bids end up being whatever amount of sixes people think are on the table.

[Dano-Stonehand]

I don't remember if the rules were ever specifically written out. Which may be part of the problem.

[hivemind]

The other thing I noticed is that many people don't realize that they can call a higher amount of a lower face value so all bids end up being whatever amount of sixes people think are on the table.

I kept trying to do that and got shouted down...

[Jason Bizby]

I don't remember if the rules were ever specifically written out. Which may be part of the problem.

Now it's written down.

[Wargrasa]

Whatever happened to Kuruki, is that not "cool" anymore?

[Dano-Stonehand]

Kuruki?

[Wargrasa]

Kuriki is similar to liars dice.

each player starts the game with 3 lives (can be played with many players). And take turns rolling 2 dice inside a cup
When the rolling player rolls the two dice, he peaks at them to find its number, not showing them to the other players at the table.
He then states what is on the dice. Its then the persons job on the right of the roller to determine if the roller was lying about his number or not. If he says he is telling the truth, then the dice simply pass to the right and rolling continues.

The fun of the game, is that you must always roll higher then the last roller, or at least lie about it. If you get called a liar, and you are, you lose a life. If you call someone a liar and they arent? You also lose a life. The only other rule is that doubles are worth more then not doubles. So like, 2 2's are worth more then a 5,6 and 2 3's are worth more then 2 2's ect ect... Last man standing wins. You can also gamble on the game.

[Dano-Stonehand]

Sounds rather interesting, but I've not seen it played at novitas.